Well, basically, yeah, I, I like satellite conference now. Almost all the, you know, satellite industry people comes along and they like the variety of the booth there. And I was just surprised that, you know, there are so many new people from, in 2023 I just wanted to, you know, uh have more time. We, I had so many meetings and I couldn't really see any panel discussions or I couldn't talk with some of the area so that we would, may want longer, how can I say a breakdown between panel sessions or so that, you know, we are they going there wouldn't be too much overlaps. So in lots of people can see lots of, you know, many other panel discussions to get more insight.